Wow.
Was that a derogatory comment about the Philippines on Desperate Housewives?
The scene where Susan’s gynecologist tells her that she might be suffering from menopause finds Teri Hatcher remarking that she has to check the doctor’s credentials just to make sure that he did not earn his medical degree from just some medical school in the Philippines (he turns out to have gone to Harvard Medical School).
It would have been funny if it were generally true but the writers should have thought about it better. If it were not for the Filipinos in the U.S. health care industry, a lot of sick people here would not have the care that they ought to have.
I might have understood the comment wrong, whoever is able to catch that episode, please leave a comment.
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September 30, 2007 at 10:27 pm
Hating Desperate housewife
I agree. I am mad and very offended. I would stop watching desperate housewife.
The derrogatory remark was unnecessary. The scriptwriters are having weaker plots and dialogues, and retort to cheap mud slinging. The fast-paced writing we have seen in the first season is a thing of the past. Too bad, I love the actors.
I hope the scriptwriter would not be in the mercy of a great filipino doctor in their future needs. The actress, Teri Hatcher, should insist not to deliver such dialogues as she just became the face of this insult to a country that was once a territory of the US.
October 1, 2007 at 3:41 am
Jon
I haven’t seen it as I don’t watch DH (not domestic helper but Desperate Housewives!), but that’s a terrible insult to Pinoy Docs. Is there such negative sentiment against Pinoy docs?
October 1, 2007 at 7:30 am
Mel
I thought the line was insulting. But on the other hand, considering the doctor made a mistake in his diagnosis (is it really easy to mistake a pregnancy for onset of menopause?), perhaps it’s just as well he did not graduate from a Philippine medical school.
October 1, 2007 at 8:49 am
coffeewithamee
Hi Jon.
No, I don’t think so. Most of the Pinoy docs I have heard of here are topnotch. I have talked to quite a few of them, one a heart surgeon who has pioneered a unique way of heart surgery and another a world-class urologist. A lot of Pinoy docs head prestigious American institutions.
Hi Mel.
Maybe they were trying to be ironic but it didn’t come across as that. If he made a mistake and he was from Harvard Med School, then it would have been better if Susan had gone to a doc with a med degree from the Philippines?
October 1, 2007 at 9:58 am
Iza
I just saw the episode and I was really surprised about the comment! I have a lot of respect for not just Filipino doctors, but also Filipino graduates and the comment was just disrespectful and racist. Even though it was meant as a joke, it wasn’t funny anymore.
October 1, 2007 at 1:50 pm
enna
this has to be my last try on posting a comment here errr…anyways.. i was really disappointed and felt insulted. she was either improvising her script or it was really written in the script. neither way.. its totally degrading what she’ve said. i think at the end they realized what they’ve done and to make it seems like it was a small thing and didnt intend to insult med filipinos, they then try to change it by making the havard gyne admit that he made a mistake. however by doing so, it made it more idiotic and made a fool of themselves. tsk tsk tsk…i was really mad at myself for watching desperate housewife instead of studying for neurobiology’s exam
October 1, 2007 at 7:00 pm
jo anne
I know it’s a big jump from a tv series, but the bottomline’s the same: The US has been having a good laugh at the expense of the Philippines since Spain.
October 1, 2007 at 8:37 pm
coffeewithamee
Great comments all around on this Desperate Housewives post.
TV writers should be more sensitive to stereotyping or making off-hand comments especially if they are about an ethnic group.
October 2, 2007 at 1:15 am
Mark
The best universities are in the United States so why is everyone complaining? Im a filipino and i wasn’t offended knowing that everyone becomes nurses in the philippines JUST to come to the U.S.
October 2, 2007 at 1:15 am
Arbet
Hi, Amee, Filipino bloggers are catching up on this. Whether this will achieve the status of Malu Fernandez or not remains to be seen.
October 2, 2007 at 1:20 am
Observer
Didn’t anybody stop to consider that this is a CHARACTER in a TV series? It is fictional, and fictional people or characters say fictional things.
Stop and think critically for a moment, please. What you are suggesting is basically saying that we should take seriously anything said, for example the WWE when a wrestler says something about the smell of the average person in a southern state as if they are all pig farmers (and literally will call them all pig farmers).
So the bottom line is that you should vent your ire at the CHARACTER. The writers are probably showing that this character is ignorant at times and will say insensitive things, as to prepare you for other insensitive things the CHARACTER might do from time to time.
This is why so many actors/writers in Hollywood complain about the “other” side of their lives, since people cannot discern fact from fiction or the actor from the character they play.
Just imagine yourself acting out a role where the writer keeps what your character is going to do in the next season a secret even to you since YOU HAVE NOT FILMED IT YET or you have not read the script yet, but everyone you know asks you what’s going to happen next when they see you on the street. YOU DON’T KNOW because you are NOT THAT PERSON. That person is a fictional character.
So while the crack at Filipino doctors or the state of Philippines healthcare might be insensitive, innaccurate, or blatantly false, it’s still a FICTIONAL CHARACTERS PERSPECTIVE. Again, if we take this seriously, how can we ever watch something and be entertained? How can we, as educated people, ever be even allowed to have an opinion as to what we know to be fact and fiction if we are assumed to believe this to be true?
This rant/rambling has gone on long enough where you get the point by now, I would hope, but let’s do one more example, just for finalities sake as to illustrate just how much free time everyone has to become so stirred up about this TV SHOW.
Do you believe that every creature portrayed on the X-Files really exists? Do you believe that FBI agents act like Mulder and Scully?
I’m sure there’s something you do in real life that’s portrayed on TV as a factual account even, where you say to yourself “This isn’t how I see it when I do my job”.
Etc.
Thanks for reading and understanding the point. Be entertained and have fun.
October 2, 2007 at 3:38 am
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October 2, 2007 at 5:18 am
Erwin Ferraren
Here we go again—-the script writer(s), editor(s) et al. of this TV program “dESpEraTe HouSeWivEs” should owe an apology to the Filipino people especially to the SCHOOLS of Medicine in the Philippines. Recently, a Filipina nurse was awarded and chosen among thousands of others as best nurse leader in US. She was voted as 1 of 10 best nurse in that rich, first world nation. Now, how could that show lashed out such remarks? I am vexed by their attitudes—from Malu Fernandez to Desperate Housewives. They never learned the word ‘RESPECT’. I am a Filipino, yet i can read and write English fluently (with a guarantee of 100% correct spelling)— i’m just not sure if these characters, editors, script writers, etc. of that show can do the same as i am–can they speak Filipino and Tagalog fluently?
Media has been overused by these pathetic human being to degrade and belittle Filipinos.
October 2, 2007 at 5:31 am
Kevin Nadal
An online petition has been started http://www.petitiononline.com/FilABC/petition.html
To the producers of “Desperate Housewives” and ABC:
We are writing to express concern and hurt about a racially-discriminatory comment made in an episode of Desperate Housewives on 9/30/07. In a scene in which Susan was told by her gynecologist that she might be hitting menopause, she replied, “Can I just check those diplomas because I just want to make sure that they are not from some med school in the Philippines.”
As members and allies of the Filipino American community, we are writing to inform know that this type of derogatory remark was discriminatory and hurtful, and such a comment was not necessary to maintain any humor in the show. Additionally, a statement that devalues Filipinos in healthcare is extremely unfounded, considering the overwhelming presence of Filipinos and Filipino Americans in the medical field. Filipinos are the second largest immigrant population in the United States, with many entering the U.S. (and successfully passing their U.S. licensing boards!) as doctors, nurses, and medical technicians. In fact, the Philippines produces more U.S. nurses than any other country in the world. So, to belittle the education, experience, or value of Filipino Americans in health care is extremely disrespectful and plain and simply ignorant. Many of the hospitals in major metropolitan areas of the U.S. (and the world) would not be able to operate without its Filipino and Filipino American staff members.
As Filipino Americans and allies, we band together to ensure that this type of hateful message should not be allowed to continue on our television and radio airwaves. Given the recent amounts of media attention that has been given to Michael Richards (against African Americans), Isaiah Washington (against gays), and Rosie O’Donnell (against Asian/ Chinese Americans), it is ridiculous that this type of hateful speech made it through various screenwriters, the show’s producers, the show’s actors, and ABC itself.
We demand a public apology to the Filipino American community, and we demand the episode be edited to remove the ignorant and racist remark. We will not allow hateful messages against our community (or any other oppressed community) to continue.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
October 2, 2007 at 6:24 am
catherine
I had lived in Malaysia, and now in Canada — and this I would like to say : FILIPINOS ARE MORE INTELLIGENT compared to their counterparts in Asia and even North America. In the U.S., they can buy opportunity because their country is rich. But they cannot buy TALENT. I am a health professional myself and I have volunteered in hospital and health center here — I tell you, I swear to myself that if I ever have any serious medical condition that I would have checked-up, I would rather go to Philippines and have them checked by Filipino doctors! We actually have better academic training in our country. I wonder where that derogatory remark in that show stems from.
October 2, 2007 at 6:31 am
mikeinmanila
If this is a ’season premiere’ then the episode must have been written months or even a year ago.
So Mark Cherry’s writing team must have put this in thier ’sequence’ about the time a major scandal on medical exams took place in the Philippines, which might explain the reference – However, it still might be taken in a broader sense of a ‘’slur’, agianst pinoy med schools.
Which is unfair, but take heart in knowing that most of the company nurses at ABC Capitol cities are pinay, hence – the next flu season I’m sure Mark and his writing team will get the ‘point’ hehehehehe
I did see it, Its one line – and there is video online -
so you can watch it.
On ABC TV’s site. There is also a petition going around in protest about it.
Mike
October 2, 2007 at 9:24 am
coffeewithamee
Hi Observer.
Good point, although I obviously don’t agree with it.
Yes, they were probably trying to make Susan look ignorant by that remark. But explain that to the thousands of Filipinos who work in the US health care industry.
There’s trying to establish character and there’s just plain maligning of a group of people. And this particular comment in my opinion, though part of Susan’s character, falls under maligning.
October 2, 2007 at 9:26 am
ted reyes
Hi Amee and guests,
I am a writer for a NY/NJ-based newspaper and I am doing a piece about the controversial Desperate Housewives episode.
Could I include some of the comments posted here on my article?
Thanks, and if you guys want to sign a petition condemning the incident, log on to the Fil-Am music online magazine, which I edit, and you can find links there where to sign.
The site is http://www.poptimesmagazine.com
Thanks!
October 2, 2007 at 9:37 am
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October 2, 2007 at 9:38 am
coffeewithamee
Hi Ted.
You can include my comments but I think you have to get in touch with the individual poster’s comments if you want to quote them directly. Thanks.
October 2, 2007 at 10:01 am
ted
thanks Amee.
Sorry for what happened with GMA7.
Anyhow, is there way I could contact these commentators?
thanks again.
October 2, 2007 at 10:17 am
Penny Lane
Here is the youtube link for those who haven’t seen it…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34_qvfh3X7c
I thought it was hurtful and done in bad taste.
October 2, 2007 at 10:20 am
LPM
Hello Amee and Everyone,
Please go to this link to catch the line used verbatum.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/FilABC/
I hope you will also sign the petition. The comments of the writer says it all. It is an insult and an apology should really just be the beginning.
The “observer’s” blog above at 1:20AM is akin to ranting and rambling as he claims many bloggers have done. Defending that this was fictional & simply done in humor is tasteless. To go on and on expending energy(goodness observer, you have spent lots more energy than the average blog on this matter!) is just as insensitive. Get a clue! Humor is abundant but it should never be hurtful. It can still be tasteful without demeaning people who care for the sick and aged.
DESIDERATA.
October 2, 2007 at 10:21 am
LPM
Hi Ted,
You can include my comments as well…please see the link above for a petition that is already circulating.
Best regards,
LPM
California
October 2, 2007 at 10:25 am
coffeewithamee
Hi Ted.
Some those who comment have a link to their blog sites. I think you can contact them from there. Otherwise, they can probably leave a comment here like LPM who said you could use his feedback.
October 2, 2007 at 10:29 am
ted reyes
thanks. LPM
we signed already and here at the press room, we are trying to contact ABC
salamat!
October 2, 2007 at 10:31 am
LPM
Hi Ted,
If you can give us your email or if you have a website, we can directly keep in touch. I just don’t want to post my email addy so openly.
Thanks for this forum, Amee….
Please visit
http://www.mastersoftheart.com
My son’s comic website
Salamat po.
October 2, 2007 at 10:57 am
lestercavestany
Please link the YouTube clip of this controversal video in your entry. It’s more complete and you might actually get the joke because this version has the punchline…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34_qvfh3X7c&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flj%2Dtoys%2Ecom%2F%3Fjournalid%3D3616053%26moduleid%3D8154%26auth%5Ftoken%3Dsessionless%3A1191348000%3Aembedcontent%3A3616053iurl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fimg%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fvi%2F34%5Fqvfh3X7c%2Fdefault%2Ejpg
Watching the more complete clip might help our countrymen “get it.”
I have more things to say about this issue but I don’t wanna clutter your weblog with a long comment so I posted it in my weblog. I posted it here:
http://lestercavestany.com/2007/10/03/reacting-and-over-reacting-to-desperate-housewives-script-about-medical-school-in-rp
October 2, 2007 at 10:58 am
ted reyes
you can email me at editor(a)poptimesmagazine.com
thanks.
October 2, 2007 at 11:35 am
Janet
A hypocrisy on the part of Filipinos. How come we get offended my unracist but unflattering comment yet in our own media, we’re racist.
What do you think about this?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H8qx48SZXj8
Everybody think it’s funny yet it is worse than that line in Desperate Housewives. Magsorry muna tayo sa mga Igorot, Indian nationals, Aetas, Fil-Chi, and other minorities bago tayo magdemand ng apology from Desperate Housewives
Ang plastic ng mga Pilipino, oo!
October 2, 2007 at 11:59 am
ec
in the first place why watch this stupid desperate US tv show…
you’ll just upped the rating of this show with your ranting..
let it go…..it’s all about making money……….
tv shows….ratings ……
the more reaction they could get..the more they’d be happy
the best thing is ignore those desperate people….
think!
October 2, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Lechonero
I’ve heard of substandard U.S. doctors getting degrees from Caribbean & South American universities. But actually buying medical diplomas in the Philippines? I don’t think so. It’s true I’ve heard of Engineers & computer techs from the Philippines who bought their diplomas, but not Doctors. I have faith enough that Filipino medical personnel have a lot of pride with their accomplishments and what they do. The University of Santo Thomas has been the oldest and pride of medical schools in Asia, it has a very good reputation. This line uttered in a very popular show is detrimental to the reputation of many outstanding Filipinos in the medical field and those who want to enter the industry. It is careless and crass. If Filipinos don’t voice out their disgust about this with the same intensity as the Malou Fernandez fiasco then there is something wrong with Pinoy Pride.
The practice of buying your way out of any school is an embarrassment, Filipinos need to correct and condemn it. However, this medical diploma issue being brought to light on amajor U.S. T.V. sitcom the way it did is unfair, insensitive, and disgraceful. An insinuation bomb has been dropped into the rummor mill and it hurts.
October 2, 2007 at 1:06 pm
jazzo
As a half Filipina I find the comment funny and so should the rest of you. It was a joke and should not be taken seriously. Because all know that one of our cousins will end up having to take care of the writer who wrote that (cuz lord knows we own the medical field) and well… when the time comes that person will be eating their words.
October 2, 2007 at 1:14 pm
me
Hi Janet,
Kung plastic ang mga Pilipino, eh di plastic ka din?
October 2, 2007 at 2:00 pm
me
Hi Lechonero,
Let’s be careful not to downgrade other schools and professions. Filipino engineers and computer professionals excel in this country as well. Also, I’m sure there are lots of good schools in the parts of the world you cited. But I agree with the rest of your post.
October 2, 2007 at 2:41 pm
May
I think the difference between this and other derogatory comments that were headliners (ie, Isaiah Washington & Imus) is that this was written in the script (if indeed it was written in the script and not just an adlib). The others were just rants and spur of the moment stupidity. In DH, it was written in the script, went through editing, read by the actress, rehearsed, and filmed – there are the directors, camera man, blah blah blah – who were there and none of them were sensitive enough to question it and perhaps edit it out.
So, yes, I find this offensive and no, I will not lighten up about it.
October 2, 2007 at 4:25 pm
LPM
Speak for yourself, Janet! Your views are not shared by many. This is present day America where civility and kindness must reside. Who cares if you post you tube levity and/or nonsense. . Those are not representative of all our views. There will be crass & indecent words, videos etc out there afterall it is a free country. So you’ve made your stand, stand amongst those with little or no pride to be Pinoy. I stand among many who stand tall(although pandak!) beaming with pride and never complacent!!! I agree with May and others, heck no –we will not lighten up!!!
October 2, 2007 at 4:39 pm
jason
for those who missed it, the episode is available on ABC’s website. they make available many of their shows typically the day after they’ve been aired on television. as an ilocano by blood, what was said was offensive for me, and all the other hard working filipinos who make both the Philippines and the USA better. We’re not a culture who sits back and wastes time. I remember going into a pinoy restaurant in California when I was a kid and always reading the plaque that read “Philippine Proverb. A lazy man dies of hunger.” I can say I haven’t found a man who calls himself a filipino who is lazy. I guess it’s just good culture. Shame on Network American TV for trying to mislead anyone into thinking anything different.
October 2, 2007 at 5:02 pm
Corey
I like how no one is mentioning the fact that Teri Hatcher is part-Filipino. Shouldn’t that mean something? Maybe people will still be offended but I think it makes it at least a little bit ok. Maybe the writers chose the Phillipines over other countries because the actress IS Filipino and they thought that would be less insulting than if they mentioned another country that was not in Hatcher’s gene pool. Who knows but I certainly think if Teri Hatcher wasn’t insulted, or insisting that the line be changed, people should get over it. Or at least not be AS up in arms about it. And they should definitely not be blasting Teri Hatcher herself.
October 2, 2007 at 5:17 pm
PUTOGRAPER
HAHAHAHA.. I SAY LIGHTEN UP!!!!
yesterday, walking down claro m recto st ave. from avenida to quezon blvd., a mere few hundred meters, i was offered (for a small fee) the ff:
1. a medical diploma from a university of my choice
2. a transcript of records from a university of my choice.
3. a record of employment from a multinatonal of my choice.
4. a driver’s license.
5. divorce papers (poor wife)
can you folks imagine, if the writers of DH knew that this is rampantly, brazenly going on in manila under the very noses and of our cops and the mayor himself?
LET’S COUNT OUR BLESSINGS!!
October 2, 2007 at 8:34 pm
derick
ok putograper … i bet that happens here in the U.S. too … i mean americans can buy harvard diplomas here as well as the other things listed !! but theres no joke saying hey did you buy that diploma from a compton crackhead ?
the point is that people got offended by a derogatory comment made toward filipinos.
if their were a line saying something about black people they would have thought twice about keeping it in the script right ??? but since its about filipinos then its funny… no way!!! thats not cool at all and i dont think we should just shrug it off. it creates a negative stereotype if we do and I HATE STEREOTYPES!
October 2, 2007 at 8:40 pm
Michelle
no, you didn’t understand the comment wrong. that written line rings terribly of ignorance. the reference as if a medical education in the philippines is no good, third world, sub par, etc.
i’ve signed the online petition. i wonder what might come out of it. it’s enough for me not to want to watch the show. shame on abc and the disney company who owns it.
October 2, 2007 at 9:41 pm
eric
i realize this was a joke, nevertheless i am still pissed off because a) she could have said “….some third world medical school” instead of “med school from the Philippines” and the joke would still have served it’s purpose, and b) why single MY country out? She could have said Cuba or Slovakia or Burkina Faso, but instead the writers chose to pick on MY country. i agree with May and LPM, we should not take this lightly.
and some posters said some pretty dumb things on this blog:
Mark – you talk about the best universities being in the US, have you heard of Oxford? Cambridge? don’t forget that the biggest idiot (according to the world, not me) to ever sit in the oval office attended Yale and Harvard Business School. yes, i agree, a lot of Filipinos become nurses to go Stateside, but that still doesn’t give them an excuse to ridicule us or our academic system.
Janet – yes, a lot of Filipinos say or think or act racist, but a lot don’t, as well. you might have found that video (Vidjay whatever) funny, but i certainly didn’t; i thought it was very ignorant. don’t tell me that i need to apologize to Indians, Igorots, Fil-Chis or Aetas; i have a lot of Indian friends and colleagues whom i respect and consider friends, and i’ve never met an Igorot (i come from the Visayas).
and i’m sure a lot of you guys already know that ex-US president clinton’s personal doctor is filipina….
October 2, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Susan
You’re all over reacting, relax! If you know it’s not true then it shouldn’t hurt you.
October 2, 2007 at 10:37 pm
redkinoko
Ironically the people bitching about the episode don’t even watch the series and fail to realize the whole show is teeming with racist comments.
Fact of the matter is insults are just that. Some things are to be taken in as humor and some things should be taken seriously. Guess where a fictional show that’s obviously anything but real falls. That’s right.
For a race that prides itself in being aloof and humorous, it’s disappointing to see how seriously people are taking this small misunderstanding.
*shrug* sheep stupid people are stupid sheep.
October 2, 2007 at 10:50 pm
dr. tuazon
I JUST HAVE TO REITERATE WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN IN MY SITE:
This is spreading like wildfire! I DO NOT WATCH DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES AS I FELT I HAD BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY TIME! This recent episode proves that I’m not missing anything at all. I pity the people who are involved in this production as they surely lack the education to provide entertainment without stepping on other people. This only proves their ignorance. I am not at all bothered by this and this is why. While it is true that there may be diploma mills in the Philippines, the United States healthcare system should know better to recognize these. For a foreign medical graduate to practice in the United States, one has to go through rigid testing and training. If we are not able then why do we have a lot of foreign medical graduates, Filipino doctors in particular, training in the United States and eventually practicing in their respective fields? We just don’t come here, show our diplomas and, voila, you can practice medicine. If the people behind the show really thinks of Filipino doctors, and any foreign medical graduates, this way then it I feel sorry for them as this is actually a blow to the American system. They should realize that foreign medical graduates are mostly the ones taking care of their sick and elderly in places where American graduates don’t want to practice.
Now, what does this say about Teri Hatcher? She may say that she was just delivering a line given her from a script. Unfortunately, this doesn’t excuse her from insulting Filipino doctors. There is what we call social responsibility….
October 2, 2007 at 11:13 pm
Observer
Amee,
I understand your perspective and I appreciate how you feel that you feel responsible to speak out against hurtful things such as stereotypes like these that a generation has been working diligently to dissipate. I live in Manila and as an American, I see how the best and the brightest are competing tooth and nail to become healthcare workers in the States. I, for one, know that the best of the best human beings would be taking care of me should I get sick based on said competition.
That said, I still stand by the perspective that an educated person knows the difference between fact and fiction. I agree with what you said, but it’s as if to say that the average person cannot be given the benefit of the doubt to ignore it and take it in the context in which it was delivered. Maybe I’m just at the point in my life where my “half-full” optimistic perspective on things allows me to be “insensitive” to the point of calling on others to turn their heads too, but is that really so wrong? That’s just a rhetorical question and food for thought.
I just think we have bigger issues in this world to focus on rather than fictional lines spoken by fictional characters. I don’t watch TV and I don’t recommend anyone to watch TV either, so I suppose that’s another point in itself. If you don’t like it, turn your head, just as I don’t like it so I don’t even bother to watch in the first place. Peace
To LPM,
I have a clue….or at least I think I do, and that’s why I’m not offended by TV shows. As I’ve already said, I don’t watch TV because I’m one of those who feels that TV dumbs us down and rots our brains in the first place. I learned that by watching for so many years in my childhood and once I turned it off, I was able to form enlightened perspectives that I have now, that allows me to not judge someone based on their race, color, creed, or background, and always keep an open mind. In this, I believe that other people should be given the benefit of the doubt that they don’t need to be babysat and can also form an educated and open-minded perspective. Stupid people will always be stupid, but ignorant people can learn. So no matter how much we protest or petition, we will not change the minds of stupid people. If anything, the stupid people will use this against you further and claim that you want to “bury the truth” or “the truth hurts”, even if it’s not true.
So face your demons and laugh at them. As long as you love yourself, others will love you too, and screw what others think. You can’t make people respect you or love you. Leading by example is the only way, and forcing your perspective down their throats or talking down to them by thinking that they are not capable of mature rationale is not the way to go.
Again, food for thought as I am not one to judge. I’m just trying to play devil’s advocate so that hopefully you can feel as carefree about these things as I do. It’s not worth it to let this distract you from your purpose in life.
October 3, 2007 at 12:11 am
coffeewithamee
Hi observer.
Thanks for your comment.
I understand the context of the whole comment in light of it being a line in a TV show. But that doesn’t mean I like it or I agree with it.
To others in general:
I see where those who don’t share the same views as me are coming from. Despite the difference in opinions, I only ask that the arguments for their way of thinking be reasonable.
A lot of blogs/comments I read say that we should be thankful that the Philippines was mentioned at all. And I say to them, are we supposed to be thankful even if we’re mentioned in a derogatory manner?
A lot of blogs/comments say it’s a joke, it’s alright. Laugh. That show makes the same jokes about other ethnicities/groups anyway. But are we supposed to just laugh just because it pokes fun at others too?
As much as people have the right to laugh it off even if the scene was done in poor taste, people also have the right to get pissed off.
Paris Hilton fans and Britney fans went ballistic on Sarah Silverman for the MTV shows where she poked fun at them. Sarah Silverman is known for that sort of humor that pushes the envelope. But yes, during her sketch, she treaded dangerous waters between ha-ha funny and not-so-funny crossing the line humor.
The writers were trying to be funny and sarcastic but fell short of delivering that. Believe me, if it was executed well, I probably would have laughed it off too. But there was a problem with how it was done.
October 3, 2007 at 12:29 am
che
All i can say is get over yourself. The purpose of that comment is humour, maybe you are not familiar with it. The whole series takes the piss out of stereotypes Bree: the perfect housewife, Gabrielle: materialistic female and Deedee the dumb blond. Yet you don’t hear all the housewives who have their tupperware in perfect order up in arms “demanding a public apology”. Filippinos are extremelly balat sibuyas, yet we feel that it is okay to mock other cultures, races etc on our own sitcoms.
Laughter is the medicine of life, and you can either laugh with the rest of the world or die young and bitter.
October 3, 2007 at 1:43 am
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October 3, 2007 at 4:11 am
Nelson
To those who are somewhat ‘in-favor’ of what this is all about, do you think any country would simply let something like this pass without anything being done?
Think again.
October 3, 2007 at 4:42 am
Robert
What is the e-mail address of Teri Hatcher?so i can explain to her.
what she has done.Like other American minorities Filipino’s should be respected.
October 3, 2007 at 5:06 am
vicky liwanag
Just saw the news bout the desperate housewives. I found it so offending to us Filipinos. The writers of that TV show should have thought a thousand times. That is professionally unethical of you! Who do you think you are huh? Or you just want a higher rating so you made mention of us, Filipinos? Who’s better between our races then?
You owe a public apology!
October 3, 2007 at 5:19 am
Noevic Liwanag
that line delivered by Teri Hatcher in that particular episode of desperate housewives clearly shows how stupid the people behind that series. well i just want to tell you guys who wrote that episode .one big “F” word to all of you!!!!!
October 3, 2007 at 5:30 am
ellen tordesillas
It’s not a pleasant feeling being at the receiving end of the insult. Definitely the scriptwriter of Desperate Housewives showed his ignorance about the Philippines.
I guess he had in mind the controversy that plagued the examination for nurses. The way the government handled it gave the impression that we as a people condone cheating, which is not exactly untrue.
We should show our displeasure to the producers of the show. But we should also show our anger to our leaders who not only condone cheating, but are cheats themselves.
That way we can hold our head high to the world and say that we are a people who value honesty and integrity.
October 3, 2007 at 7:32 am
LPM
Dear Observer,
Keep your diatribe within reason, please . Your effectiveness is diminished when you get preachy. Pardon my bluntness.
There are certain things that are okay, not so okay, tolerable and blatantly wrong. Your values are yours and one can not assume it works for others. TV is a medium watched by kids of all ages all of the time despite best efforts to curb it. The content of which must be questioned or objected to when warranted. The petition is going around. Lessons can be learned so we can’t be complacent. Assuming that there is nothing to be gained by the objection of many is naive at best. Take note how Pinoys & allies are responding.
Susan: Relax? Perhaps you are not yet a parent and if you are, know that TV shows influence our young. Lines like that are uncalled for, otherwise it would not have tweaked the social conscience of many.
Putographer: Every country, every culture has a nasty armpit. Every now and then, a potent cleanser ergo conscience can minimize its stench!
Redkinoko: Small misunderstanding? Shishkabob!
Corey: I don’t care if Ms Hatcher is part Filipino, kimono dragon or butiki, the line was simply poor taste. . The muck goes up the food chain of ABC.
Kevin Nadal: Thank you for the petition. Pinoy Pride is alive and well, brother. Mabuhay!
Ted Reyes: Looking forward to your article.
Amee: Thanks for the coffee!
Desiderata,
LPM
October 3, 2007 at 8:03 am
misett
So many blahs and blahs here but not one comment from a US trained Filipino doctor posted here.
I wonder how they (US Trained Filipino doctors) would feel if they’ve watched this desperate episode?
Or do they ever watch this at all?
My guess is they are too busy to watch and they’ll say,
“Who cares what the TV says, I’m earning a six figure US dollars a year
and I only invested a small amount of pesos from a medical school in the Philippines.” And then they’ll just laugh at it and continue by saying, “someday these TV people will be our patients anyway, since 80% of the nurses in the USA are from the Philippines, and 30% of the US doctors are from the Philippines, too. So, we’ll just wait for them and maybe they’ll write a good one-liner in their future episodes.” lol
October 3, 2007 at 8:06 am
me
We should not take this lightly. This is about ignorance and hatred hidden in the guise of entertainment. We have been belittled on national TV. How can some say it’s a harmless joke? Anyone with common sense or with basic knowledge of psychology understands the power of suggestion over the mind. Our image has been smeared and the least those arrogant producers and writers can do is admit their malignment and apologize publicly.
I am proud that Filipinos can write well and I admire those who value our national identity.
October 3, 2007 at 8:11 am
misett
The annual salary of an average US Physician is $140,000+++ or higher,
and regardless of what country or school you come from,
but only if you pass their series of tests and training.
Truly, America is an equal opportunity country and the land of milk and honey!
Congrats to the many Filipino Medical doctors who made it,
and not the ones who turned to nursing.
October 3, 2007 at 8:36 am
PUTOGRAPER
1. pag hindi kayo natulog, ibibigay ko kayo sa bumbay na tindero ng payong!
2. huwag kang magaasawa ng ilokano anak, mga kuripot yan!
3. yuch! binili mo sa intsik ang siopao na yan>- may pusa yan!
4. susmaryosep! ang pamangkin ko nagasawa ng kapampangan- itim ang gilagid ng mga iyan!
5. huwag kang bibili ng cell phone sa moro-mga mandaraya iyan!
6. saan nanggaling ang bago naming chimay? siyempre pa sa bisaya!
7. sus! ang itim naman ng boyfriend niya-parang ita!
can somebody please tell me who’s the most prejudiced people in the world?
October 3, 2007 at 8:57 am
bryanne
A not so nice remark again about the Philippines. But as said, we must not take it seriously.
I personally think though that the line was totally unnecessary to make any sense of the scene.. An American doctor pursued his medical studies in the Philippines? Not impossible, but a kinda flat idea for that kind entertainment.
Therefore, we should not really be annoyed that the Philippines is deemed low-grade in terms of medical education, instead wonder why in the first place the Philippines was mentioned in that line of conversation, in a fictional story.
October 3, 2007 at 9:01 am
coffeewithamee
Che,
There’s humor and there’s well, a pathetic stab at humor. The line was definitely not humor in my book.
Despite contrary arguments, you still find your comment on my blog. That, Che, is humoring you.
Misett,
You don’t have to be a doctor to find fault with what was said. The who cares attitude is usually what gets people into trouble, and the dig on nurses was totally uncalled for.
@PUTOGRAPER, hasty generalizations.
October 3, 2007 at 9:19 am
LPM
Misett or miss hit. Your last line above makes the latter more appropriate.
I could never be a nurse, it takes a special heart & stomach to be one. It takes a lot of guts to be trained as doctor & work as a nurse. I admire them all. Bottomline, their work ethic is beyond impressive. Their love for family to help those left in the Philippines is beyond reproach.
Putograper: I suppose you are admitting to something here for you to take the time to list the above.
Me(above) not yours truly—THANK YOU for echoing the profound sentiment of many.
Amee, at this point–I best take some decaf!
October 3, 2007 at 9:44 am
chloe
let us all calm down… i know that what was said in the Desperate Housewives was somewhat hurtful to alot of Filipinos. It was unfair and discriminating. especially to Filipino doctors. but it’s already out there, no amount of apologies and retractions from people involved would make things alright.
let’s just hope that the next time they throw something that is as unpleasant as this at us, we can confidently say, “to hell with you, you can’t break me because i know i’m better than you”.
peace!
October 3, 2007 at 10:16 am
coffeewithamee
Hi Chloe.
I appreciate your comment. We might not share the same sentiment but you explain your point in a clear, reasonable manner.
October 3, 2007 at 10:17 am
me
To LPM,
I agree with your observation about our carefree but preachy Observer. He or she kept on emphasizing FICTION as if we don’t know what it means. What the observer should have emphasized was that the FICTIONAL CHARACTER specified a REAL group of people in front of millions of viewers who REALISTICALLY could get the wrong impression about Filipino doctors and other Filipino professionals as a result of the racially offensive line.
October 3, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Newyorker
MGA KABABAYAN PLEASE READ AND SIGN THE PETITION AGAINST THIS RACISM. MABUHAY PO TAYONG LAHAT!!!
ugnayan_nyc@yahoo.com
Statement of Ugnayan ng mga Anak ng Bayan (Linking the Children of the Motherland) on the Racist Comment Made Against Filipinos on Desperate Housewives
Progressive Filipino American youth in New York and New Jersey strongly condemn ABC’s Desperate Housewives’ executive producer and writer Marc Cherry and the other producers, editors and the director of the show for the racist remark made against Filipinos in the Sept. 30, 2007 episode. We join the Filipino community and its allies in demanding from ABC a public apology and recognition of the existence of systemic racism in the corporate media and corporate-driven pop culture.
In the Sept. 30, 2007 episode of Desperate Housewives, Teri Hatcher’s character is told by her gynecologist that she might be hitting menopause, to which she replies, “Can I just check those diplomas because I just want to make sure that they are not from some med school in the Philippines.” The comment reflects systemic racism at its worst. Targeting an entire education system (rather than targeting individuals based on skin color, which is how we have traditionally defined racism), the comment is based on the racist assumption that the products of a western education are far more qualified than the products of a Philippine education.
Filipino youth, conscious and aware of our history, know that it was the US who set up the Philippine education system in the first place when the Philippines was a direct colony of the US in the early 1900s. We understand that the main beneficiary of this crippled Philippine education system IS the US, especially in the medical field. The US opens and closes its doors to immigrants based not on qualifications, but on the need for labor. This was the case at the height of the “Brain Drain” in the 70’s and 80’s when there was an influx of medical professionals migrating from the Philippines into the US, and US immigration laws were relatively lenient. However, once saturated with medical professionals, the US closed its doors by setting up stricter immigration policies.
Filipino youth, conscious and aware of the issues of our community, know that the Filipino medical professionals who migrated in the 70’s and 80’s are becoming replaced by a new generation of service workers, mostly domestic workers, who hold the same degrees from the same colleges as the previous generation, but who are working much less desirable jobs. There is a systemic de-skilling of the Filipino community in which the primary beneficiary is the US, and in which the US corporate media and corporate-driven pop culture are complicit. This large-scale de-skilling of an entire population would never be acceptable to white Americans, but is so palatable that it is a punchline in a TV show. That is racism on a systemic level.
Ugnayan ng mga Anak ng Bayan condemns ABC and the staff of Desperate Housewives for being complicit in the problems that plague our community and for perpetuating systemic racism. We support the initiative of so many in our community who are taking action on this issue and urge all to sign the online petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/FilABC/. We will take action if ABC does not heed the demands of the Filipino community.
Ugnayan vows to continue the struggle of Filipino youth and all Filipinos against systemic racism; and to fight for the genuine development of our community and for the life and liberation of the Filipino people as a whole.
Demand an apology from ABC!
End systemic racism!
October 3, 2007 at 12:59 pm
LPM
Here is a direct quote from the FilAm Petition signatory listing:
“I agree whole heartedly with the sentiments expressed in this petition. As a Filipino American Doctor who graduated from Medical School in the USA (Jefferson Medical College) and went on to complete fellowships in two separate subspecialties in ophthalmology, I am disheartened by these remarks. Hopefully, we will no longer be seen as secondary citizens who are afraid to speak up and instead stand up for our heritage and all the good it brings to this country.”
M.J.M., MD
October 3, 2007 at 1:12 pm
LPM
Another quote from the FilAm Petition:
“This type of derogatory remark is not only unnecessary and hurtful, but is also unfounded, considering the presence of Filipinos and Filipino Americans in the health care industry. Filipinos are the second largest immigrant population in the United States, with many entering the U.S. and passing their U.S. licensing boards as doctors, nurses, and medical technicians. In fact, the Philippines produces more U.S. nurses than any other country in the world. So, to belittle the education, experience, or value of Filipino Americans in health care is disrespectful and plain and simply ignorant.”
R.L.
There are so many more comments from the 33,000 (and growing!) protesters.
October 3, 2007 at 1:48 pm
coffeewithamee
Hi ellen.
Thank you for dropping by.
Hi me.
LOL at the observation on the observer.
October 3, 2007 at 1:53 pm
coffeewithamee
PS.
Dear all,
Comments are screened not for what is being said but how it is said. This blog does not tolerate cursing, swearing and general comments that end in name calling.
October 3, 2007 at 2:22 pm
Pinay
To all my co-Filipinos,
Let us show the nations and all the people around the world whatever color of their skin they have, culture and nationality that we are professionals, descent, not rebellious, respectable, humble, kind, caring, loving and most especially God-fearing people.
If we are going to be silent about the unnecessary words they said against us they will continue to do that and step down on us; but if we continue to fight those act of evil as if we are entertaining them.
Desperate Housewives show obviously needs high rating so to gain more viewers they pinpoint people with any race. Sadly we, the Filipinos, are the one whom they chosen to ridicule especially the Medical School from the Philippines.
I felt sad and upset. But for me that’s an evil way trick. They want Filipinos to become rebellious, fighters, trouble-makers, indescent, unprofessional, unkind, not humble, BUT WE ARE NOT LIKE THAT.
They know Filipinos are the most humble people all over the world! We are the most calmly diligent people. God-fearing people all over the world.
See the DEVIL TRICK. Don’t act like rebellious, fighters and trouble-makers. FILIPINOS ARE NOT LIKE THAT!
FILIPINOS, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE! DON’T LET ANYBODY CHANGE YOUR CHARACTER!
LET’S SOLVE THIS WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND DESCENT WAY AGAINST ABC CHANNEL
October 3, 2007 at 3:09 pm
Astig-matism
An earlier post pointed out that Teri Hatcher is part-Filipino (though I have not been able to confirm that), so either herself or the writers thought it would be ‘OK’ to say that line in the program.
I posted in another forum/blog that the line probably would have been funny had it been said by a Filipino actor in a certain context.
However, for argument’s sake, let’s say that Ms. Hatcher really is part Filipino. Nowhere in or around the show indicates that she is, thereby giving her the perceived license to deliver such a line, nor is it established anywhere in the character of Susan Meyer that she is part Filipino. Essentially, what we saw and heard was a Caucasian American making a derogatory allegory on an ethnic group of a specific profession. In my book, that makes it a racial slur. An entire room of people let this air on television. Even if it was merely fictional humor, it was a writer’s viewpoint packaged, disguised, and gift-wrapped under the guise of Comedy Entertainment.
Ms. Hatcher, or more appropriately, Mark Cherry and his associates will likely come out and issue an apology. They may even indicate that Ms. Hatcher is part Filipino and that she was fine with the script so they may say that it did not think it would be so offensive. But they went ahead and lit the “firecracker”, tossed it, and people got burned. One simply can’t erase what was said out loud.
I agree with earlier posts that the humor of the scene could have been delivered without having to do so at the expense of an specific ethnic group. Shame on ABC and those associated with the show for letting this happen especially in light of the recent faux pas of Michael Richards, Don Imus, Mel Gibson, et. al.
Filipinos will get an apology…
ABC and its show will milk this publicity for all its worth…
life will go on…
October 3, 2007 at 5:19 pm
jun
Please cast your vote about this issue. Thanks!
http://ultra.host-care.com/~theisoft/demo/survey/
October 3, 2007 at 6:07 pm
MS
The racist remark was unacceptable. Damage has been done whether an apology will be made or not. Stop watching the show and let it go down the drain. [Like it wasn't there in the first place.] We need a better Sunday show anyway.
October 3, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Jingo
Pathetic! This show is very popular among Filipinos, especially professionals — this includes docs here! The line was definitely thought of seriously considering that ABC is a big network with worldwide operation and who do its own review before any show is given a go signal. Is someone saying something against the Philippines again? We don’t deserve to be beaten again and again. ABC should help us instead of bashing us subtly here and there. Mind you, we are becoming big in medical tourism. This is something we can bank on to propel our slow-moving economic development. And this is because of our good doctors who train both in the Philippines and the US. Is someone afraid we’ll gonna take over the world in this field? Medical malpratice happens everywhere, including the USA! Congratulations to ABC … you’ll be getting much out of this publicity. But mind you, you too must help the Philippines … if you don’t have the heart to capitalize on another’s misery. I might be a faint voice, but I will definitely be one falling off from your and your show’s myriads of followers.
October 3, 2007 at 9:35 pm
Connie Remo
We should not be too sensitive when the outside world gives negative remarks on the Philippines and on Filipinos on things that are based on an image we ourselves have projected. Instead we should use the same energy we utilize at protesting for rehabilitating our image by doing something concrete. Protests were led by US based Filipinos who I would presume are more or less detached to the realities of home. Of course Filipinos at home echoed the protests. I am not justifying the racial slur, I am saying that we should also spend as much commitment to do something about our bad image as a nation of cheats. Otherwise, I’m afraid we may be running out of sympathizers in the world.
October 3, 2007 at 9:38 pm
bluecuddles
It is Desperate Housewives’ racist scriptwriter & producer’s fault on this. As for Teri Hatcher, she should be smart enough to protest and should ask not to deliver those offensive remarks just to earn ratings. Never though this silly show is still on air! To all those ABC executives and writers and you Teri Hatcher, better pray hard not to get sick or that you won’t need any hospitalization at all, sorry fools but most medical practioners are Filipinos and are found in almost all hospitals in the US. As much as you hate it, you people can’t hide the truth that Filipino doctors are very much well-respected in and out of the US.
October 3, 2007 at 9:42 pm
bluecuddles
like what has been mentioned, damage has been made and any apology given from you folks won’t undo what’s been said and done.. may all filipinos join not to watch your silly show ever!
October 3, 2007 at 10:49 pm
pogi1
It’s a freakin comment on a show that is supposed to be funny. Not offensive at all. I don’t know why a lot of people have their panties in a bunch. Get a life.
October 4, 2007 at 12:36 am
Jingo
To Connie Remo:
Reaction to these types of typecasting is not being sensitive at all. Mind you, what we’re doing now is part of our efforts at “rehabilitating our image by doing something concrete” – to quote you. This is side by side with the advocacies I am doing right now in my own little way right here in a depressed Manila Barangay. Creating a good image includes looking at all venues, including TV and the internet. If you think we’re not doing anything aside from airing our protest against ABC, then better look around and better, do your share (if you’re not still doing one) at restoring our national pride, because we already are and we don’t want the world to miss, ignore or bash it. Image-building is after all not just doing good but also telling it well.
October 4, 2007 at 5:07 am
chloe
to coffeewithamee,
thanks for being so openminded. i love my country and i was also hurt by what was said. but there are different ways of dealing wih bullies, one is to fight back another is to ignore.
but i’m sure our kababayans in the States are glad to hear that Filipinos here in the Philippines share their sentiments.
Mabuhay!
October 4, 2007 at 8:01 am
fictitious character
Hi pogi1,
I’m a fictitious character created by a writer and I’m supposed to be funny. First of all, it’s one of two things. Either you’re conceited or you’re the opposite of what your name suggests.
Making a reference to the ladies’ undergarment as your symbol of weakness? Again one of two things, either you’re disrespectful and arrogant or you’re wearing one. Oh please, lighten up. Don’t take it seriously. I’m just trying to be funny, so this should not be offensive at all. If you respond to this fictitious character then you contradict your previous comments. Get a life.
October 4, 2007 at 8:08 am
LPM
From another supporter of the Petition:
For the record, I am not Filipino–or any minority for that matter. However, racial slurs of any kind, in fact derrogatory remarks about any group of people as a whole, diminish the humanity of all. The idea that the actor is simply depicting an ignorant portion of our society is no defense. If it is your intent to make a productive social comment about bigotry, this is not the way to do it. Furthermore, this particular show is outrageous in many ways and you may think this gets you viewers and ratings. But you do not get MY viewing, and my rating of this show is below zero. It has no socially redeeming value whatsoever. Robert Kennedy once said, “If you are not a part of the solution, you are part of the problem.”
M.E.D., Phd
October 4, 2007 at 8:36 am
me
Hi Connie Remo,
I like your analysis but I don’t entirely agree with it.
It’s like saying the girl was raped because she was wearing mini-skirt. Which one should we focus on saying first, that wearing mini-skirt is bad or that raping is bad? Please pardon my poor analogy.
October 4, 2007 at 9:40 am
LPM
First of all, good AM or PM depending upon which side of the equator you’re in.
Connie Remo: Please offer your specific & concrete solutions as words are simply that.
Jingo: Thank you for your eloquent reply and kudos for doing all you can at your barangay.
Fictitious Character: Ditto.
Allow me to get on my soapbox please…Although I do not belong to the noble medical profession, in my field I have seen the care that we Filipinos give to our families and loved ones. Many sacrifices are made to better the lives of those left in our island nation. Parents sending just about every dime to help educate their children, older siblings stepping in to then help the younger ones attain college degrees, and then as our parents get older, we have rooms ready for them in our homes so that they will never know loneliness in a nursing home. I have seen family members come together to buy that first home and eventually even furnish it with a karaoke machine! We, Pinoys have been doing something to help our own for many,many years. On a greater scale, I know of foundations created by successful Filipino Americans that help our less fortunate kababayans. Please join one if you have’nt already. We are doing something, we never stopped.. There will always be corrupt people, such is life. Scandals that take place can not nullify what we are as a people. Family comes first, charity begins at home. We would give up Louis Vuitton suitcases or some other hokey immitation and use “cartonite” so that we can accommodate more pasalubongs so that Aunties & Uncles,Lolos & Lolos who are not even related to us, share in our joy. Beaming with pride yet? I certainly am!
Respectfully,
LPM
October 4, 2007 at 10:25 am
LPM
….And just because I can, I will— reiterate that our protest is growing in numbers for obvious and heartfelt reasons. Mabuhay!
October 4, 2007 at 10:33 am
coffeewithamee
Update:
ABC issues statement of apology. Here is the news report from the Philippine Daily Inquirer:
http://services.inquirer.net/print/print.php?article_id=92435
ABC Studios sorry for racial slur on ‘Desperate Housewives’
By Ruben V. Nepales
LA Correspondent
Inquirer INQUIRER.net
Posted date: October 04, 2007
LOS ANGELES, California–(UPDATE 3) The network and producers of “Desperate Housewives” have issued a statement apologizing for a remark made by actress Teri Hatcher’s character in a recent episode of the television series.
The following is the network’s statement: “The producers of ‘Desperate Housewives’ and ABC Studios offer our sincere apologies for any offense caused by the brief reference in the season premiere. There was no intent to disparage the integrity of any aspect of the medical community in the Philippines. As leaders in broadcast diversity, we are committed to presenting sensitive and respectful images of all communities featured in our programs.”
The remark, made by Hatcher’s character in a scene with a doctor, was, “Okay, before we go any further, can I check those diplomas? Because I would just like to make sure they are not from some med school in the Philippines.”
Filipinos, especially healthcare professionals in the US and the Philippines, were outraged by the remark. E-mails expressing outrage circulated among Filipinos all over the world. Blogs and websites denounced the remark.
The Philippines’ Consul General in Los Angeles, Mary Jo Bernardo-Aragon, sent a letter of complaint to Mark Pedowitz, president of ABC Studios, which has the domestic and international franchise rights to the show.
The remarks “served to create racial stereotypes, thereby tainting unnecessarily the excellent record of Filipino health care professionals all over the world,” she said in her letter.
The Philippine presidential palace, Malacanang, also said it would seek an apology from the TV network.
Alec Mapa, a Filipino-American actor who has a recurring role in the series, told this reporter via e-mail: “It’s unfortunate that the Philippines was used as a punch line. My family is filled with doctors and medical professionals. I know first hand from them, that the medical schools in the Philippines are top notch.”
The actor’s full statement appears in this reporter’s column, “Only in Hollywood,” Friday (October 6).
When asked by if ABC would release a lengthier statement, Charissa Gilmore, ABC Studios vice president for media relations, said this is “the only statement planned.”
Meanwhile in Manila, a congressman filed a resolution that called for a ban on airing “Desperate Housewives” in the Philippines.
“This ought not to be shown in the Philippines because of that incident,” Representative Bienvenido Abante Jr., chairman of the House committee on public information told reporters.
The resolution states: “Such dialogue, which was beamed all over the world, constitutes not only a clear slur but an insult of immeasurable magnitude not only to Filipino doctors but to the entire Filipino nation and our educational system.”
October 4, 2007 at 10:53 am
me
To Amee, Kevin, LPM, Jingo and others,
You are such an inspiration. I’m even prouder now as a Filipino because of you. Thank you (on behalf of the fictitious character).
October 4, 2007 at 1:44 pm
LPM
Hello Amee, Me, Kevin Nadal, Jingo, Eric, Lechonero, Newyorker, Ted Reyes, Iza and others,
It would be an honor to someday meet up with you, dear kababayans! Let me know if you are ever in the San Diego area and we can shake hands at ChowKing, Jollibee or Manila Grill over some halohalo and siopao!
Please go to my son’s comic website and leave a message on the forum.
http://www.mastersoftheart.com
Thank you so much for sharing your time, intellect, angst and humor!
You are hilarious, Fictitious Character/Me!
Proud to be Pinay,
LPM
October 4, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Astig-matism
Glad to see the news about this issue are now hitting the news agencies.
It’s my hope that other ethnic groups and their organizations, especially those that have been slighted recently by such “celebrites” or their shows, chime in on this issue.
You can replace the “some medical school in the Philippines” line with any other medical institute or university that may, for cutural, geographical reasons be associated with a particular ethnic group… anyway you read it, it comes off as a racial slur… “Joke” or otherwise.
“….There was no intent to disparage the integrity of any aspect of the medical community in the Philippines.”
Yet, it made it through to broadcast. Simply astounding coming from a television network whom…
“…are committed to presenting sensitive and respectful images of all communities featured in our programs.”
“Spin-control” at its finest…
October 4, 2007 at 5:59 pm
Connie Remo
To Fil-Am medical professionals: you have all the right to protest. You have worked hard and deserve to be recognized. BUT you miss the whole point when you fail to strike a balance between the vindicating yourself for being offended versus the necessity of also being aware of the reality of medical education and practice in the Philippines.
Kudos to you because you are not as affected as we are here who must face the reality of deteriorating health care here. Besides the cheating in board exams, there was a previous case about a Fatima College where students ended up in the top 10!
Ever wonder why America or UK or other more secure countries are not affected when their presidents, prime ministers are maligned in the press? Is it a coincidence that when you are secure with yourself, you are not also overly sensitive nor do you get affected by criticism? That is my point. We know there is something wrong somewhere and turning a blind eye and a defensive fist to those who criticize us is not really addressing the basic issues.
But I don’t expect Filam people in the US to understand what I am saying. They will be too preoccupied with defending their personal integrity and professionalism because this TV episode had challenged that.
As for the Pinoys in the Philippines, c’mon, don’t be a copycat. We never progress because we not only don’t want criticisms but we also do not want to do anything about our faults.
POVERTY has already eaten into the moral fiber of the Filipinos. Let us stay focused on how to help the lesser endowed in our midst to get a better deal in life. That is what I mean by doing something concrete to address the basic issues.
October 4, 2007 at 6:02 pm
Connie Remo
Additionally, please do not cite giving money to foundations to help poor Filipinos. This is not what I mean by helping. We need to be personally involved as if every poor Filipino is a member of our own family. Because this is actually the case in the final analysis: We all suffer for every little fault the least of us commit in the name of survival.!
October 4, 2007 at 10:27 pm
Lame
Lame get a life you boring people that can’t take a joke. Watch the comedy channel sometime and see how many people frome different races, ethnicity, disability, etc. get made fun of. You dont see the whole world crying like everyone involved in this stupid little fight to get it off the air and get an apology which they have already done. Really sad people seriously get a life, learn to laugh, or go see a psychiatrist( because you might need the help of a professional). People don’t like little babies who throw little tantrums!!! By the way I have a ton of Filipino friends none of which were offended, because they are cool.
October 4, 2007 at 11:13 pm
coffeewithamee
Hi LPM.
I now know who to get in touch with when I go to San Diego.
To Connie Remo:
I find your reasoning rather disjointed. I will not even attempt to counter-argue.
October 5, 2007 at 12:05 am
LPM
Connie Remo: For your lengthy venting, I simply must concur with Amee.
On the subject of Foundation, I must give my two cents. First of all, HELP IN ANY FORM IS WELCOME. Here is the meaning of the word…Foundation: an institution financed by a donation or legacy to aid research, education, the arts. Second, I have seen very poor people benefit from direct gifts, some anonymous, some set up through Foundations, but all from the love and care of another human being. Third, I have gone back to the PI 3 times last year and know exactly how lives are being altered from mitzvahs, one person at a time. No tax benefits, even anonymous, just plain and simple giving. Fil-Americans & friends of Filipinos help many back home on a regular basis. Money is sent through banks and services like LBC everyday. Those who have achieved betterment abroad are sensitive to the poverty in the homeland. People are giving back again and again, treating many as family. Last and certainly not the least, still I am more impressed with those who don’t even want to be known, not needing to hear the humble thank you but to simply know that for a moment or a lifetime, another life is better.
October 5, 2007 at 12:09 am
LPM
Amee, please do contact me when you are in San Diego…Just remember my son’s website I mentioned previously.
October 5, 2007 at 7:47 am
fictitious character
Lame,
The name suits you now. I read through the whole forum and it seems you’re the one sounding like a baby the most. Now we won’t even have to watch the comedy channel anymore. As long as you keep posting, we will be laughing! Oh common, it’s only a joke. I’m a fictitious comic, remember? You see, I don’t even have anything nice to say. I just make fun of people in public. You know, this would have been funnier if I know the things that are most valuable to you, like perhaps your lack of education, or I mean your educational background, so I can make fun of it. Why aren’t you laughing? If you don’t find me funny, you’re not cool, dude. Lighten up or see a professional. I heard that Filipino psychiatrists are some of the best in the world.
October 5, 2007 at 9:39 am
me
To Connie,
Let’s not victimize the victims further. I apologize to some but I feel like expressing this in Tagalog: Uunahin pa ba nating bigyan ng leksyon yung biktima kaysa doon sa umabuso? Dinuraan na tayo sa mukha, para pa natin inunang sabihin “Sa susunod kasi, magpa-ganda muna tayo ng mukha para hindi nila duraan”. Bakit hindi muna natin iparamdam na mali ang pag-dungis sa karangalan ng Pilipino o ano pa mang lahi? At hindi po tayo ganoon kapangit. Lahat po ng bansa may kagandahan at kapangitan.
To LPM,
I hope to meet you and our other kababayans someday as well. I’ll keep your son’s website in mind.
October 5, 2007 at 3:05 pm
LPM
Desiderata
Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs;
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals;
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love;
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe,
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful.
Strive to be happy.
Max Ehrmann
October 5, 2007 at 3:21 pm
LPM
As a child, my Mom had us kids memorize Desiderata. Talk about a
gift that keeps on giving.
Me: I have to say it, TOUCHE’!(Kasi pihadong baka hindi sagutin ng
ganoon, medyo tuyo na ang pasensiya ko)
TGIF!! Hey, have a great weekend everyone!
October 6, 2007 at 1:09 am
chaz
you know what, whether there’s truth to that comment or none, bottom line is they have no right to insult the filipino medical practitioners working in the USA. doing so would also be questioning the professionalism of their own licensure examinations because before a foreign practitioner can work in the US, he has to pass a lot of qualifying exams given by no less than THEIR OWN licensure council. i despise those who justify and rationalize the action of the production team behind this show… philippines may have a lot of flaws, but then again, what country doesn’t have? they don’t have to flaunt on National television (even worldwide) their unfair outlook on philippine medical schools. for those who are saying that we are being onion skinned for reacting to this issue, well i ask all of you, how do we suppose to react? give that show a standing ovation? get real! maybe you are not on the medical field that’s why you are not so affected or the USA have colonized you deep down to your soul but remember this, millions of people have seen that episode around the world and it HAS tarnished our reputation and degraded us. that comment is downright unfair and racist. dont justify their actions just because we have dirty laundries of our own. I say it’s just like being in one family. we tend to throw pranks towards our brothers and sisters, even calling each other names and throwing insults toward one another but when other people start doing that, we stand and fight for our siblings. just like in the philippines, we stand against those foreigners who tend to belittle and oppress us because it’s simply THEY HAVE NO RIGHT to do so. we’ve done them no wrong, so why all of these sudden media attacks towards us?
lastly, all i can say is that I can take insults and jokes on how i dress, what i eat or even throws of derogatory remarks on my physical appearance. it’s just skin deep and very superficial. but when they start to criticize without basis my views, beliefs, culture, nationaltiy and my professional capacity, all hell will break loose!!! because that’s the very essence and core what i am. No one has the right to insult that. a person who cant control what’s coming out of his mouth has control over nothing.
PONDER on this: what the world needs is for each of us to have respect towards one another. from there, we move on to loving one another.
October 6, 2007 at 1:25 am
chaz
and to the one who said that the reason why we are still a third world country is because we can’t take criticisms and refuse to make amends on our flaws? may i ask you… do you know the difference between constructive and destructive criticism? and to tell you the truth, that line from that show is neither one of the aforementioned! it is a downright INSULT and RACIAL SLUR against philippine medical school… i’m also in the philippines, so if i’ll base my reactions right now on your view, do you mean im just a copycat riding with this issue? are you serious?! it doesn’t matter where you are right now, as long as you’re a filipino who GRADUATED from a medical school here in the philippines, that “Desperate Line” will affect you! again, no matter what you say, that script TARNISHED and degraded us medical professionals! and for what? for no reason at all! just for the sake of ratings! like i mentioned before, don’t rationalize and justify those “Desperate Team’s” actions just because we have dirty laundries of our own. you don’t shout blame on a drowning person, but you save them first from drowning, THEN reprimand them from being careless… Philippines is a striving country right now. and the last thing we need are these derogatory remarks that has no purpose at all but to sink us lower…
October 6, 2007 at 1:00 pm
LPM
Chaz, thank you for your empassioned entry and for your
insightful analogy “don’t shout blame on a drowning person, but you save them first from drowning, THEN reprimand them from being careless…”
Here are more excerpts from prior blogs—
From ME(aka Fictitious Character):
Uunahin pa ba nating bigyan ng leksyon yung biktima kaysa doon sa umabuso? Dinuraan na tayo sa mukha, para pa natin inunang sabihin “Sa susunod kasi, magpa-ganda muna “tayo ng mukha para hindi nila duraan”.
From Jingo: If you think we’re not doing anything aside from airing our protest against ABC, then better look around and better, do your share (if you’re not still doing one) at restoring our national pride, because we already are and we don’t want the world to miss, ignore or bash it. Image-building is after all not just doing good but also telling it well.
From Amee: “In an ideal world, you’re not judged based on how your name sounds or on your color. But let’s not kid ourselves. This is the reality. You only work for a tolerance of differences in society and not letting racial biases get in the way. So to those of you who say take this lightly or lighten up, I say to you to get off your high horse.”
From LPM: I am revisiting comments made by some of our proud kababayans here in the U.S. & back in the P.I. ‘Hoping those who have differing views will come to realize, although there is merit in diverse opinions when in comes to Pinoy Pride & Integrity, TOGETHER WE ARE STRONGER.
October 6, 2007 at 2:04 pm
LPM
I mean, when IT comes to Pinoy Pride & Integrity,
TOGETHER WE ARE STRONGER. Amee, please edit. TY.
October 7, 2007 at 5:24 am
Dr. Susan Perez
I am a Filipino doctor here in the US. I have very little time to watch TV or be on the internet, but I am finding the time for this because this is very important. I am offended by the statement in desperate housewives. It is derogatory and insulting. Very little has been mentioned about the qualification exams that International Medical Graduates (IMG’s) have to undergo before practicing medicine here in the US. It is a series of rigid tests called USMLE (United States Medical Licensure Exams). It is the same standard used for US Graduates. Therefore, if you pass you are certainly well qualified to practice in this country regardless of where you graduated from. Here is the link for those of you who care to understand. http://www.msbml.state.ms.us/permpdf/req.pdf. It is important to know that a huge portion of international medical graduates work in underserved areas here in the US, in order to be able to obtain a petition for a working visa’s.
To berate a medical educational institution in the Philippines is to berate the US educational system as well. The Medical Educational system in the Philippines is patterned after the US only with a slight difference. Filipino Medical Graduates are required to serve a hospital for a year after graduation as a Medical Intern. This is not the same as first year of residency as it is here in the US. A Filipino medical graduate for the most part do not get paid during internship. It is a noble act of servitude. One has to go through years of medical education, medical internship with minimal or no pay, then go into a residency program for a specialty, then more years for a fellowship for a subspecialty. So if a lot of Filipino medical professionals are insulted, it is for good reason. It took years of sacrifice of get to where they are now.
The Philippines has one of the highest literacy rates in the East Asian and Pacific area. Ninety-two percent of the population 10 years and older are literate. The Philippines ranks #71 out of 176 countries ranked in literacy rate. This is not bad considering that the Philippines is a poverty stricken nation. It is estimated that ~30 Million Filipinos (out of a population of 80 Million) live below the UN’s benchmark poverty line of one dollar a day.
Filipinos take education very seriously. For those of you, who implied that it costs very little to study medicine in the Philippines, that might be true relative to the US dollar but untrue considering the threshold of economic boundaries.
So if a lot of Filipino medical professionals are insulted, it is for good reason. It took years of sacrifice of get to where they are now.
Thank you for those who took the time to express their dismay (to say the least). I signed the petition but at that moment did not have the time to write. As a proud Pinay, with honor and dignity, I am defending my hard earned education, my noble profession, my fellow Filipinos and most of all my country. Mabuhay!
Dr. CCP
PS: Special thanks LPM
October 8, 2007 at 6:39 am
rose
To all,
I’m PROUD to be a Filipino. It hurts, but let’s try to pray together and move on. People all over the world knows, WE FILIPINOS are best in serving and taking care of our patients. We always have this TLC.
To JANET and the rest who says WE ourselves are racist to our very own people,
Here’s the example, it’s ok for the African-American to call their own people the N*** word… but never use this N*** word if your not one of them. Every country or races have their own racist side. But don’t generalize us. Because we’re not like you, guys.
GOD BLESS to all the supporters. MABUHAY TAYONG LAHAT!!!
October 8, 2007 at 10:19 am
Gloria S. Nunez
To my fellow Filipinos . . . It is true that the comments that made us furious was not only derogatory but ignorant. Just a reminder . . . . just because these people are seen and heard on TV does not mean they are educated and intellegent enough to consider other peole other than themselves and their money-making schemes.
We are all grinding our teeth about these issues – understandably so. Let’s give them some time. Someday they might find themeselves in need of medical attention. . . . then we can show them that not only our doctors and nurses have received excellent medical education and training but also trained in human compassion. In ther words, these comments should be irrelevant considering where it came from
October 8, 2007 at 10:53 am
LPM
Rose: Amen to that! Moving on in unity is a good thing. I do believe the majority of us are on the same page.
Dr. CCP, thank you for making time to share your perspective. We certainly have every reason to be proud!
October 8, 2007 at 4:43 pm
Jingo
To Connie Remo and others:
Whoops … I think you’re missing the point here. No one mentioned about giving money as the only concrete step at helping. That’s a thing in the past. FYI. Our group doesn’t have any affiliation nor funding from some wealthy foundations or nation. We’re here hands on, living with squatters helping them help themselves. We put up funds from our own pockets and collect our talents together to come up with a worthy project like recycling your basura. If this won’t convince you we’re concrete, what will? And just because we are basureros, are we no longer supposed to be affected by the negative publicity hurled against our more affluent countrymen? In this day and age TV and internet are already accessible even among squatters. The thing is, if we can help create a good image for the Philippines, be it mag-recycle ng basura or magpahayag ng pagkadismaya via the internet, we will, because these are just some of the venues where we can help ourselves.
October 8, 2007 at 4:46 pm
Jingo
Sorry Amee … I posted the above twice … looks like something’s wrong with this machine I’m using. Basura na kasi sana ito. LOL
October 8, 2007 at 8:34 pm
coffeewithamee
I accidentally deleted this comment. Am posting it again. My apologies:
Dear Gloria,
You are right, it’s just a matter of time and those who senselessly
condoned the DH lines will see for themselves how well educated and
compassionate Filipino medical professionals are.
As a result of the protest of thousands upon thousands, ABC has
apologized and agreed to deleting the line from any reruns. Further, the
word is out–Filipinos are no sitting ducks, punching bags, door mats or
pinatas.(Pls feel free to name what I missed).
Best regards,
LPM
October 8, 2007 at 8:35 pm
coffeewithamee
Hi Jingo.
No worries, I just edited the second repost.
October 9, 2007 at 10:17 am
LPM
Dear Jingo,
We applaud what you are all doing with recycling. Helping others so they can help themselves see a better day. It is also so good for the suffering environment.
You know when I took my kids back home last year, it was very hard for them to see during the wee hours of the morning two kids, perhaps 10 yrs pushing their kariton bellowing “bote!”. It struck a chord, we had to turn our vehicle around and gave most of our remaining pesos and whatever food we had. The huge smiles we got warmed our hearts for that moment but the ache is ever present knowing that the horrors of survival darken innocence much too soon.
Amee, please be so kind and give Jingo my email addy privately. We would like to help in any little way we can.
Thank you,
LPM
October 9, 2007 at 1:14 pm
LPM
Dear Amee & Jingo,
I am realizing now that recent blogs could be evolving into something past the DH debacle. It would be great if efforts just like Jingo’s & friends get magnified and multiplied. Perhaps start with providing a sturdy kariton for a few at a time. With the intense heat back home & the wet season, perhaps one that can have a tarped roof or better? Maybe Mr. Pacquiao will donate a few for starters , great PR to promote recycling & a “green” PI. Your thoughts, please.
Best,
LPM
October 9, 2007 at 9:40 pm
charito benipayo
It’s sure a racial slur and be it a joke or a serioius accusation that the performer Terry Hatcher had expressed in that particular episode, it’s a condemnation of the medical professionals who graduated from the Philippines. I am all behind all my “kababayans”(camrades) who are now currently rallying to take actions.
I cannot seem to believe that …given the script writer and the director were at fault, shouldn’t the performer, or Terry Hatcher herslef has had first read her lines before the actual shoot and she should have had caught it right then and there that the lines are controversial?
This is unacceptable, no matter what and more than public apology is in order.
Charito Benipayo
October 11, 2007 at 6:34 am
LPM
Hello Charito,
I heard that a group of Pinoy medical professionals are looking at a class action law suit against ABC. I hope the settlement will include some serious
“giving” to our needy Pinoys in the homeland.
By the way, are you related to Benipayo Press?
Ciao,
LPM
October 11, 2007 at 12:44 pm
Dr. CCP
I was looking for the class action law suit online and could not find it. If anyone knows how contact the proper people, please let me know. I would be more than glad to be a part of it. LPM, I strongly believe in giving as well. Maybe some of the money can go to a scholarship foundation for deserving med or nursing student(s). This is a good way to move on!
Mabuhay!
Dr. CCP
October 17, 2007 at 11:30 pm
charito benipayo
Hi LPM,
Yes, I am part of the “Anti-Defamation Coalition “which was just formed last October 12 at the Philippine Consulate in San Francisco, headed by our colleagues, lawyer-journalist Rodel Rodis, Atty. Ted Laguatan and Dr. Raul Roco. As a result, we had a big rally in front of the Disney Store in S. F. on October 13.(You must already have read it -written all over the faces of local newspape,including my columns).
Yes, my husband is the one related to Benipayo Press,he is Benipayo and his name is Romy. My maiden name is Charito Silverio Capiral -Benipayo and I am an educator, journalist and anchorwoman(locally)
Who do you know among them?
What does LPM stand for?
For Dr. CCP … you can email Rodel Rodis at rodel50@aol.com if you wish info about the coalition. Yes, we are moving on, and APOLOGY IS NOT
ENOUGH!
Cheers,
Charito
October 18, 2007 at 6:41 am
lapu lapu
My god!!!!!!!!!!! I cant believe how many entries re: DH. Anyhow, I think its all been said in one way or another but I’ll add my two centavos worth. OK? I have never seen the show.and wont waste my time. No, I’m no highbrow but I’m not into soap operas, and never have been. However, folks get a grip!!!!!!!!!!! It’s not real. OK? So many of you talk about the “characters” as if they are. Here’s one comment about the character everyone is in a “tizz” about, “I thought she was intelligent”. Now mind you, in this case the person was writing about the “character”, not the actress. This should give us a little insight into the intellect of some of the viewers, in my opinion. Again, in my opinion, from reading reams of comments, I understand the “character to be talking about two things, (a) a piece of paper on a wall, period. And (b) a med school in the Philippines. The “character was not talking about Filipino nurses, or doctors,dentists, engineers, plumbers, or your cousin who might be selling lansones from their corner sari sari store. She was also not talking about the “quack doctor” that your lolo goes to, or the “doctor” who stands on street corners and for a fee will pull out of your body an organ or growth, but she could have been. These individuals by the way, could have those degrees from med schools in the Philippines the actress was referring to. Genuine? Who knows. In closing, let me say Amee, you do a great job and I have taken the liberty to correct the error at GMA if it hasn’t already been done. P.S Is everyone aware that a diploma from a med school in the Philippines does not necessarily qualify one to practice medicine in the U.S. and that Filipino doctors are going all over the world by the hundreds as nurses? Cheers!!!!!!
October 18, 2007 at 6:47 pm
LPM
Hello Charito,
Thank you for your reply. I am going to ask Amee to give you my email
addy and will be glad to communicate further that way.
Best,
LPM
October 19, 2007 at 5:37 am
Dr. CCP
Charito,
Thank you for the information on the Coalition. I am proud that we are moving on. I agree that an apology is not enough. I have emailed Atty. Rodel. We need to send out a message out there that we Filipinos have a strong national pride and identity.
Mabuhay!
Dr. CCP
October 19, 2007 at 9:26 am
me
lapu lapu,
Wow, you talked about many things including lansones vendor, quack doctor and Filipino doctors who adapted into nursing because of demand abroad. But let’s practice what you preach and stick to what was said on the show because that was what thousands of us were reacting to. The show portrayed distrust in diplomas from medical schools in the Philippines. Of course we understand that those words were spoken by an actor’s character but so are the commercials that motivate some people to buy a product or doubt a political candidate. The character is not real but the effects are real. Media is powerful. We disdain producers, writers and actors who misuse that power in contributing to the propagation of ignorance and bias against a nation.
October 22, 2007 at 11:42 pm
lapu lapu
Media is only as powerful as any individuals intelligence will allow it to be. I understand that millions of peoples “tender egos” were bruised. If ABC or any other network were inherently racist I would be the first one to “throw stones”. Again, we are dealing with reality here. Can I put it another way? I’ll try. Cannot a fictitious person, a stupid one perhaps, make statements that are racist or degrading? Authors do it all the time, don’t they? Journalists do it every day. We are all able to respond to them in any way we want. And I guess millions of people have done just that re:DH. What an opportunity for the program to come up with later episodes that expel myths, right? On the other hand it seems that nobody wants to touch upon phony diplomas and their availability in the Philippines with a ten foot pole!!!!!!!!!
October 23, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Connie Remo
I have to say this: Filam doctors in the US are only after saving their skins and keeping their practice intact and profitable. They did leave their country for this didn’t they? If they cared for Filipinos at all, they should try to take a broader perspective and try to understand where Teri’s line is coming from. Hey, don’t pretend to love the Philippines… admit it and find out why the country is going to the dogs really, instead of just reacting when it is your own narrow security that is at stake.
October 23, 2007 at 9:19 pm
coffeewithamee
To Connie:
I allowed your comment because I believe in hearing both sides. But allow me to point out your flawed reasoning regarding the matter. And how is it connected to the line said on DH?
October 24, 2007 at 8:16 am
LPM
Connie Remo, you are so off the mark here. You have judged so many people over their desire for betterment for themselves, their families and others. How can you be so quick to ASSUME they are selfish & self promoting? It is narrow & it is very shallow. Those who have left the Philippines have not forgotten, many help on an ongoing basis. Millions & millions of dollars have been sent back home, this translates to supply & demand no matter how little it may seem. Without those dollars, it would be a worst. Money creates work and work feeds people. Those impacts are real. Martyrs are great but they all die, We have had enough of those. We have many wonderful examples & inspiration already. We need action takers that provide results. Once again, words are cheap. I understand this is a runoff from the DH debacle however, it is time to knock that chip off your shoulder. Stop and smell the M & M’s, they are not toxic!
October 24, 2007 at 11:38 am
me
lapu lapu,
I know you like to talk rhetorically but I’m not sure I understand the notion of your first sentence. Are you trying to say that media has no effect on you because of your intelligence? Please pardon my rudeness but really, if all people had that level of intelligence, sponsors would not be wasting millions of their money on actors and fictitious characters. By the way, we were not concerned about the people who are as intelligent as you. We were concerned about regular people, ignorant people, young people and people who are expanding their comprehension and tolerance. So you see, it’s not a matter of “tender egos”. It’s about dealing with reality as you yourself preached.
Who said anything about ABC or other network being inherently racist? We don’t know that and nobody said it, so I don’t understand why you’re disputing it. We were reacting to a derogatory line said on DH in front of millions of viewers. Perhaps you should bring your topic about phony diplomas to another discussion somewhere.
October 24, 2007 at 9:49 pm
Connie Remo
Fil am doctors are only after defending their own livelihood, period. The episode on TV was not about you it was an indictment of medical practice and education in the Philippines. You just happen to get hit by it although you were not the target. So Fil-am doctors. go win that $500 M lawsuit and to hell with the Philippines!
You still don’t get it do you?
October 25, 2007 at 1:58 pm
LPM
NO, Connie—you obviously don’t get it and perhaps you never will. You are playing judge, jury and executioner. That massive chip on your shoulder is blocking your sense of fairness towards your kababayan(doctors & others) who have been affected by that DH debacle. You assume too much by your comments. At this juncture, we will simply accept that you are entitled to your opinion. I seriously contemplated on ignoring your reply instead , I shall comment on it this last time. We are beginning to regurgitate words and bottomline, the banter is beyond tiresome and futile. So long.
October 28, 2007 at 4:01 am
lapu lapu
Me et al,
No ME I am not so intelligent. I do however think that advertising is a form of brainwashing and it is affective as you say. You know it”s effective when millions of Filipinas buy “whitening cream” back home so they can look “whiter, right. The fact that it doesnt work doesnt really matter. In the Philippines it”s OK to falsely advertise something. It is also OK to sell phony medical certificates. If that bothers you or anyone else. Too bad, Jeez, for all I know the writer may be aware of their availability. Its probably a long shot but maybe the writer has a Filipino friend, neighbor or whatever that told him or her about the practice. I spoke with one of our family doctors (a Filipina) last week about the show and she laughed about it, I suggest you might learn from her. The doctors are retraining to be nurses because they are not qualified to go as doctors. That ME is reality just as “tender egos” are. cheers
October 29, 2007 at 7:58 am
me
lapu lapu,
Finally you said something I can agree on — your first sentence. Cheers!
November 15, 2007 at 8:52 am
PUTOGRAPER
people……………………………………………………get a life!
January 10, 2008 at 6:20 pm
LOL
Filipinos are hypocrites.
Watch SSS and it’s a far worse racial slur against the Visayans.
January 13, 2008 at 6:57 am
LPM
It does not matter what ethnic group, color or creed, hypocrisy is part of the human flaw. Isolating it to Filipinos is small minded. Are you a Filipino?
Besides, the DH debacle has long been addressed. Old news however, it did pull together many principled folks.
January 17, 2008 at 3:55 am
lapu lapu
To LOL, What is SSS?
April 18, 2008 at 6:38 pm
high blood
Just wondering what had happened to the petition filed by Filipinos on this matter…